The very idea that all fetuses need to be 'protected' from WHIMSICAL (?!!) women is grotesque to the point of being a criminally abusive assertion. ONLY WOMEN carry the physical consequences of every conception, birth, and parenting all their possibly threatened lives. Just being pregnant can be physically devastating and life threatening. The order of questioning frames the debate and that is the logical, human, and therefore 'moral' question to begin with.
With her body and the contents of her womb, however you want to define the contents, is the primary medical, legal, AND moral question. Cletusġ1. I can't believe that you think it's totally fine to just abort away So where is the line drawn? Where is it drawn now? What do you think? I think people need to butt out of other people's private business. presuming that a woman with an unwanted pregnancy is unable to make the decision to abort except "at a whim"? Insulting, at best, don't you think? The only possible reason a prenate would be aborted immediately prior to birth would be in a dire emergency situation whereby the woman's life could *only* be saved by such a procedure or the fetus has suffered some debilitating and fatal circumstance. And certainly not for any "whimsical" reason. And just to calm your fears, such abortions simply do not occur. Other peoples medical procedures aren't any concern of mine, let alone a concern that requires a moral judgement. Such ridiculous hyperbole aside, actually, I don't. What more does it need? I think most people on here would think it morally wrong for a woman to abort a fetus, just on a whim, the day before it was due. What is "humanity", exactly? At birth a neo-natal member of the species Homo Sapiens is considered a legal person, an organism(since it is now not dependent on the woman within whom it resided) and a human being(in the social sense of the word). And to your point, given the nature of Rockydems posts, do you honestly believe they are looking for *facts*? Cletusġ09. There was no modern science involved - just the normal delivery.Ī human fetus can only be human. No woman aborts except for dire medical reasons just prior to birth. Specifically, that the "whimsical" abortions Rockydem posited are riduclously propagandistic nonsense. Actually, the reason I defend the right to "have one at any point" is precisely because I'm well aware of the facts. Instead of defending the right to have one at any point, I think it is more helpful to actually use the facts to show how the numbers of late term abortions is very low and done under circumstances where there are problems with the health of the mother or the baby.
No one has late term abortions just for the hell of it. And a neonate is not the same as a prenate.
Man, modern science is amazing, isn't it? A few week old pregnancy is NOT the same as an almost full term pregnancy. So as far as your question is concerned fetus is a reductionist perspective of mass-energy equilibrium where consciousness touches its huge and pure form.I had a preemie at 34 weeks (7 1/2 months) who was able to go home 72 hours after birth. The so called duplicated consciousness is disproportionate to energy-mass equilibrium of a child hence it is weaned off over next few months to years when child starts investing it into speech, locomotor and social development. For a fetus inside the womb this is bidirectional- heightened levels of consciousness is delivered to mother by a fetus during gestation and same is duplicated when baby is separated from mother. Eventually when umbilical cord is cut the process of self consciousness begins due to experiencing life beyond life and sense of embodiment comes into picture. For a mother it brings heightened levels of consciousness when baby is inside the womb which is an ultimate effort of any life experiencing fundamental consciousness. But one need to understand the transaction of consciousness from baby to mother and mother to baby is intricate. The process of separation from the womb is gaining of self consciousness by a previous fetus into a newborn child who apparently has duplicated in every sense from the mother so has to duplicate consciousness as well. First of all, at fetal stage the so called fetus is physically nothing more than an extra organ to a mother with phenomenal speed of development in space and time which is integrated with fabric of consciousness of mother.